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Rice · Oct 18, 2007, 09:23 PM // 21:23

SoD and Rc are my top 2 choices for prot elite.
Life sheath is too slow cast time.
Dont liek Zealous Benediction espcially if there is another healing monk in your party, Gift of health is good enough for healing on a prot monk.

Thom Bangalter · Oct 18, 2007, 11:26 PM // 23:26

rc/lod is good enough for gvg, and good enough for pve.

Wish Swiftdeath · Oct 21, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07

it depends on the area, if its got loads of conditions i go RC, if its got loads of hexes then i run divert.

More often that not i find myself running: SoD, BL and ZB.

I would go with one of those 3 first as they are much more versatile and you don't want to be going into area's with a useless/near useless elite like RC and Divert as they are conditional and don't do anything unless the requirements are fulfilled.

Imo SoR works for bonders in RA. Life sheath is just rubbish, the skill needs to be changed to reduce the damage after your prots rather than before.

elektra_lucia · Oct 25, 2007, 06:41 PM // 18:41

SoR is made by someone addicted to healing breeze and couldn't fit echo on their bar.

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Imo SoR works for bonders in RA.

LOL

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Life sheath is kinda underrated, but I wouldn't really use it all the same.

RC/SoD/DH. =D.

TheLichMonky · Oct 26, 2007, 08:11 AM // 08:11

SOD > All prot elites ;p

bungusmaximus · Oct 26, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36

TA: ZB
PvE: RC
8vs8: wouldn't know, rarely do that

Age · Oct 26, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16

For preprotecting best is SoD otherwise RC.Monks don't have great line of elites to choose from as their non elites are far superior than their elites.Then Anet can never balance them right them right these being SoD,SoR and ZB.I consder ZB to be a big healing spell not real protecting as you can't preprotect with it.I use SoD for that but PoS is far superior.

The devine favour,smiting and healing have much better elites to be honest.

elektra_lucia · Oct 27, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

Divert hexes is pretty good and not mentioned much.

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For preprotecting best is SoD otherwise RC.

Preprotting with RC isn't ideal...

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Monks don't have great line of elites to choose from as their non elites are far superior than their elites.

That's rubbish.

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I consder ZB to be a big healing spell not real protecting as you can't preprotect with it.

As I once explained to another guy. Look up the word protect on www.dictionary.com and also protection prayers in game:
''No inherent effect. Many Monk skills, especially enchantments that prevent damage or provide healing, become more effective with higher Protection Prayers''.

I guess the 'especially' bit passed you by and the 'provide healing'. The words 'Zealous Benediction' are suited in protection too, or divine, but whatever =D. You can't pre-prot with many skills (mend condition etc) - That doesn't mean they don't belong in prot. They still prevent harm at some point or another :]. If healing someone for 170 isn't your idea of preventing harm, then whatever =D.

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The devine favour,smiting and healing have much better elites to be honest.

That's why everyone is using divine skills and smiters!

Age · Oct 27, 2007, 07:24 PM // 19:24

^You can not preprotect with ZB as it is not an enchantment spell like say PoS.

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That's why everyone is using divine skills and smiters!

No they don't but the best elites as well as healing are in that line.You don't need a protection elite on your bar.The OP doesn't have NF so that limits his choice.The only elite would be Life Barrier.

ACreator · Oct 27, 2007, 08:01 PM // 20:01

use zealous benediction

if well used, not only u can heal well and also win a LOT of mana

take this as example

u have 5 energy.

u use your GOLE and heal a m8 thats bellow 50%

now u heal another m8 in the same condition.

not only u saved 15 mana for the spells, but u also win 14 mana!!

elektra_lucia · Oct 27, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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^You can not preprotect with ZB as it is not an enchantment spell like say PoS.

It's a moot point, you said it's not real protecting. It is protecting. It's just not pre-protecting. According to you, you can use RC to pre-prot though. Look:

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For preprotecting best is SoD otherwise RC.

LoL^.

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No they don't but the best elites as well as healing are in that line.

So people just like using bad elites?

terminus123 · Oct 28, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16

Well thanks guys, I chose RC to get from my elite monk tome tome since its looks like it'll take awhile before i cap the boss since he's near the end of the campagian, only one boss, and sometimes dosen't even spawn.

Going from what others say I'll probably get SOD next from good reviews^^^, and just cap Life Sheath and Shield of Regenration since therer not to hard to get.

creelie · Nov 03, 2007, 06:35 AM // 06:35

I think my love affair with Zealous Benediction is winding down. I find myself in the same headspace I was with Word of Healing: "Oh, he's in trouble, but in another second he'll be definitely under 50% and I can get the cheap heal . . . crap, now he's dead."

I think I might actually switch to SoD, and then start packing around GoH for an emergency heal. Competent healing backup is not too hard for me to find these days.

Spazzer · Nov 03, 2007, 07:38 AM // 07:38

ZB is not an option for the OP because they don't have Nightfall.

In its present state, Shield of Deflection gets beat to hell by Guardian.

OP, you don't have Nightfall, and so you're not able to bring Dismiss Condition. This pretty much means you should bring Restore Condition. Unfortanely, you also lack Mending Touch.

BLight has not been brought up yet, but it's a very strong elite for a prot monk to use, and it's available in Factions. You're specced in Divine Favor anyway.

LightningHell · Nov 03, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

LoL^.

So people just like using bad elites?

I believe when s/he says this:

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For preprotecting best is SoD otherwise RC.

S/He means that if you want to preprot, use SoD, and if you don't, use RC.

payne · Nov 03, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

[skill]restore condition[/skill]

best prot elite IMO

Burst Cancel · Nov 03, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

The case for Blight is weakened by Cure Hex, which has a comparable heal - actually, greater at the same spec, but you're not going to have 14 heal with a prot bar. The lower recharge on Blight is eclipsed by the 10e cost, which means you will rarely be able to take advantage of it (well, bring GoLE I guess), and the condition removal is somewhat trivial given all of the other options you have to do it (e.g., running a draw on midline).

"SoD is only useful for physical" is plainly false, as it adds 29AL at 14. In point of fact it's still usable in PvE since the monsters aren't smart enough to switch off protted targets, but most players appear to have abandoned it in GvG.

The thing about running 'prot' is that you don't need full attribute to do it unless you're running something like SoD. In which case, you're really better off just using LoD (oops, no Nightfall - seeing a trend here, OP?).

In this case, I agree that the best option is probably RC.

Tyla · Nov 03, 2007, 01:50 PM // 13:50

RC gogo!1!!1!one!

terminus123 · Nov 03, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01

well if I'm not using RC I use like mend condition, which is like a weaker version of it.
I capped Life Barrier just for something to do, and I was wondering, is it rlly any better than Life Bond?

Spazzer · Nov 03, 2007, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by Burst Cancel

The case for Blight is weakened by Cure Hex

That skill is not available to the OP. ?_?